Raymond
Lau
lau_raymond_@hotmail.com
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6/1/2002 10:32:01 PM
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What are the best free MP3 Sites?
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Adam
Summers
asummers@purdue.edu
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6/2/2002 4:13:51 PM
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If you are looking for "legal" mp3s, most of the ones out there are crap. Your best bet is to go to the homepage of your favorite indie band and see if they have any free music up for grabs. www.minibosses.com and www.mcchris.com have their sites set up as such, and by doing so are getting more publicity.
If you're a man of questionable ethics (not unlike myself), just install one of the dozens of p2p programs out there and go nuts.
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Marcus
Chang
marcusc@ucla.edu
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6/2/2002 11:05:47 PM
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If you are talking about streaming MP3's, http://www.shoutcast.com has a ton of different streaming mp3 servers at 128 bps and even higher. You can use StreamRipper to record mp3's being played by the various stations, or so I heard...
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Daryl
Slusser
darylslusser@gmail.com
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6/3/2002 12:33:23 PM
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Well, if you are looking to "share MP3'S" www.kazaa.com is the way to go. Remember though, Don't steal music!
Daryl
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Craig
McCarty
cmccarty@nc.rr.com
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6/10/2002 12:46:03 PM
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Go to ZDnet and search for Morpheus preview edition. I see that someone suggested Kazaa..........very bad idea. Kazaa installs spyware without letting you know, and you cann't get it off of your machine without getting ride of Kazaa. The spyware tracks everywhere you go on the internet and lets kazaa know, then kazaa intern most likely sells your info to spammers. Kazaa also has tons and tons of virus's floting through it.
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Andrew
Smith
the_speaker_for_the_dead@yahoo.com
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6/10/2002 6:41:12 PM
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No matter what p2p service you use, always have a virus scanner. With regards to spyware, try running Ad-aware (from Lavasoft), available on download.com. It removes spyware from your system, and even checks the registry.
With regards to Free MP3s ingeneral. Visit the band's homepage of the music you want to see if they have put any up for download. There are some band's that post songs for download. But more then likely most popular bands do not put free music for downloads, in mp3 format at least. So the supply of 'legal' free MP3s are generally small.
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Ian
Stallings
jovian_moon@hotmail.com
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6/12/2002 3:48:52 PM
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Just a FYI, There is a version of Kazaa that has been hacked to remove the spyware called Kazaalite. I use it occasionally but I mostly like to use the gnucleus p2p app to connect to gnutella networks. It's like bearshare or limewire without all the spyware.
I say purchase all the albums that you download and keep around.
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Yee Wa
Lau
ywlau@wam.umd.edu
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6/14/2002 4:03:05 PM
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Well I dont know any best MP3 sites...except I know a program call Audiogalaxy. Basically you can search most of the songs (esp chineses/korean/japanese ) ones...It work like napster except some of the US singers's songs are prohibit b/c of copyright reason. No crashes, bugs for me so far so it should be a cool program.
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Andrew
Smith
the_speaker_for_the_dead@yahoo.com
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6/20/2002 8:33:48 PM
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Unfortunately, it seems Audiogalaxy has finally been shut down. After hearing a rumor or two on other sites, I visited it, and not even 'hosted' artists are available for download.
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Adam
Summers
asummers@purdue.edu
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6/21/2002 3:41:37 PM
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To hell with the RIAA. After yesterday's internet royal ruling, all my favorite streaming sites have thrown in the towel. With CDs becoming increasingly more expensive, as well as the RIAA taking away our rights to play them in our computers, I have become fed up with the music industry. Therefore, I suggest that everyone begins looking into supporting independent artists and looking into alternative ways into obtaining music. If that involves using P2P programs, so be it. Fight the man with your pocket book.
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Andrew
Smith
the_speaker_for_the_dead@yahoo.com
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6/22/2002 12:58:17 PM
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the RIAA taking away our rights to play them in our computers
Actually, if you are refering to the 'protected' cds they put out (the ones that violated the cd standard by corrupting some of the table of contents data so they would not play in computers/many dvd players), there is a simple fix (hence why they stopped the idea). From what I understand you just take a perminent magic marker and draw a circle around the outside edge (detailed explaination can be found using a web searches).
It's funny that the RIAA still claims that cd burners/P2P programs are the main reason they aren't making as much of a profit, I think you nailed some of the reasons why they are really losing money, Adam.
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Adam
Summers
asummers@purdue.edu
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6/23/2002 6:53:44 PM
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Andrew, I am quite familiar with the various methods that can be used to bypass these security features, but that's not the point. I refuse to purchase these products out of principle. I'll be damned if I support this "evil empire" with my money any more.
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Andrew
Smith
the_speaker_for_the_dead@yahoo.com
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6/24/2002 12:34:20 PM
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I refuse to purchase these products out of principle. I'll be damned if I support this "evil empire" with my money any more.
Not to start an off topic debate, but you know those are the exact words I've heard from many Linux enthusiasts when refering to Microsoft.
And that is one reason they are losing money on cd sales, in my opinion, because of the reasons you listed are pissing off people. There was even a rumor that when Emimen released his new album, that the flood of 'tracks' from his album that hit the file sharers (a huge majority were fakes, i.e. just the chorus looped over and over to be the right size, or 10 seconds of song, 10 seconds of silence) They masquraded as the real files (and other varities, i.e. 'Real Version', 'Live', 'Album'). They seemed to have a professional sound it was reported (i.e. like it was mixed in a studio...). Though the lable did not confirm they did it, the head of the RIAA said he approved of 'spoofing' in this aspect. One person commented why it wasn't done more by the labels is that they did not want to piss off a huge majority of customers.
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Rafael
Ufret
802958587@uprm.edu
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6/24/2002 12:46:27 PM
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In my opinion, as well as the loss on the dollar value, the CD costs increase to 'replace' the loss from CD piracy. The same thing is happening with univ. courses' books. The students copy the books 'cause they are expensive, but of this, they get more expensive; that's publishers' reasson for the book costs. So I don't see why it can't be the same with CDs and softwares.
PS: I apologize for the "off-topic" comment (as said by Andrew).
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Adam
Summers
asummers@purdue.edu
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6/24/2002 1:14:12 PM
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Hey, there is nothing wrong with an "off-topic debate", especially when Devhood is pretty much dead right now.
You're right Andrew, the same could be said about the whole Microsoft/Linux thing. The same thing could be said about the MPAA. Both are on my short list right now, but just haven't pissed me off to the point of an outright boycott of their products. But both are on their way to that point, with the MPAA leading.
By the way, here are some pretty cool labels that are not part of the RIAA:
Ninja Tune Warp Quannum Deep Elm Jade Tree Hydra Head Sub-Pop Dischord Desoto BWR Trustkill Krank
As for Rafael's comment about the price of CDs going up because of piracy, I find that a bit flawed. The price of CDs were going up well before the advent and popularization of P2P programs such as Napster. Music just becomes more and more corporate every day, and the majority of the public are more than willing to take the crap which they have been given.
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Andrew
Smith
the_speaker_for_the_dead@yahoo.com
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6/24/2002 8:39:18 PM
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Rafael: I've heard that argument applied to cds/general store merchandise when things are stole, never applied to school books. On that I am of the mind that they know they can gauge the students (as those books are 'required' for a class). Though, I also heard people complain about game prices so high, given that cds are so cheap to make. The reasoning there is that for games, they have to advertise/etc to get people to know about them, where as with music cds, song get played on the air for free (infact stations have to pay a royalty each time a song is played). One could technically argue that mp3s let individuals hear the songs (of course cd singles sell for, what, $3?). Also we could go into the details about how little the actual artist gets per cd sold.
Adam: I agree that the MPAA is starting to push things. I'm not sure if you've followed the events with ReplayTV by SonicBlue, similar to Tivo. They actually stated that because the device had built in to skip commercials that that was stealing! Though given what AOL TimeWarner did with Harry Potter (for those that don't know, the VHS release, and many of the region 1 dvds do not have the tradition copy protection, and they saved 5 cents a copy by not putting them on it! The copy protection company wants to make it manditory in the future if they only partially use their copy protection that those copies should be labled.)
Also, do you happen to know any major bands to those lables that aren't in the RIAA?
*Edit: Oh, and if you like we could start a different thread on the matter, perhaps get others interested that would not normally look at this thread, due to it's label, we can put a link back to this initial discussion.
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Rafael
Ufret
802958587@uprm.edu
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6/25/2002 12:00:26 AM
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Well, I just mentioned a few "reasons" for the high costs. But the loss of dollar adquisition value is true anyway; in a future you can't buy with a dollar what you can buy today. About the books, it was like a "memo" or small note from a publisher to university community. At least it was reffered to just one publisher, not sure which one, but the discusison was about the accounting books (they cost $100+ compared to $60 aprox. like two years before). But it was just like a comment to profesors and then repeated to students, I didn't said that for sure. As for the reasons people copy music, maybe the reasons are the same for books too, just for SOME people. As I was told by friends and read in the internet, some copy or download music so they just may like 1 or 2 songs from a CD of 10+, as for books you may just need them for one semester; also copy|download music CDs 'cause they cost too much, the same for books (as I said, just the same for some people); you don't need to have legal CDs, so neither you may need a biology or physics book if you study finance, accounting, languages, etc... as for a major course some want to buy the book new. Those are just too few (if also low "quality") comparisons.
By the way, what should the the topic of the new thread? just music, or other products in general?
------- Also, I'll not say Devhood is "dead", during the summer (I hope just that), but it is 'asleep'.
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Adam
Summers
asummers@purdue.edu
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6/25/2002 1:22:45 PM
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Also, I'll not say Devhood is "dead", during the summer (I hope just that), but it is 'asleep'.
Rafael, surely you jest. When most of "Yesterday's Top Movers" are averaging around 1-3 points, I'd have to say that this site is breathing its last breath. Hopefully this trend will change once fall rolls around.
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Andrew
Smith
the_speaker_for_the_dead@yahoo.com
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6/25/2002 2:34:34 PM
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Adam: I would not trust the "Yesterday's Top Movers", on two different days I gained 6+ points and was not on the top movers, they were listed as people that got 3~4 points on those days. I think in my case it was something with the news articles (submited on the previous day, and approved, but I got the points on the following day, but it was posting as on the previous if that makes any sense). And I'm sure it will pick up in the fall, if for no other reason then schools will have more MS presentation, and I know at least in my school forums, activity picked up after each talk (oh and note, it wasn't because the SC said you had to to win free stuff, or get x number of points to get something, he dinna do that).
I've started the new thread, called debate: music/textbooks/general why priced so high. I think that should be appropriate to cover the topics we've started talking about here.
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Chad
Huff
chuff@cs.utah.edu
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7/14/2002 6:38:41 AM
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Also check out http://www.winmx.com It's similar to Kazaa.
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